Showing posts with label UMC. Show all posts
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Friday, May 30, 2025

Speech at Annual Conference in favor of regionalization

This is the speech I made today at Annual Conference in favor of the regionalization amendments.

I am Steve West, pastor of Jacksonville First UMC. I am passionately in favor of the constitutional amendments before us, and I urge each of you to vote for them.

For years, a number of us worked tirelessly to preserve the unity of the Church—not uniformity, but unity rooted in our shared faith in Christ. These amendments are the next step in making that dream a reality.

My personal journey began in 2017 when I became aware of coordinated plans of some not only to leave our denomination, but to block ANY proposed plan for unity on their way out. I began to speak out, because I believe Christ calls us to do better than that. I still do.

They said regionalization would never work. That African delegates would never allow it. That conflict would perpetually define us. That the church would implode.

But I was at General Conference in 2024, and I saw something different. I saw a church finding healing and daring to hope again. I saw the Spirit moving, granting vision. I saw a church choosing to love our people instead of loving our issues. And I saw African United Methodists saying yes, this IS how God is calling us to move forward.

This moment will prove naysayers wrong—not out of spite, but because we have a bigger vision. A vision that says our unity is in Christ. A vision that’s not about thinking alike but loving alike. A vision that reflects the beautiful, contextual diversity of a truly global body called the United Methodist Church.

These amendments are how we move forward. They give us the framework to live into the decisions we’ve made. They preserve unity by creating room for regional diversity.

Central conferences want to be part of this new future. They’re choosing community over control, collaboration over coercion. And they’re trusting us to do the same.

Today, every vote matters and is counted toward the aggregate total across the world. So this is your moment to be part of the new thing God is doing. 

But more than proving the  doomsayers wrong, let’s prove John Wesley right. He coined the phrase “agree to disagree.” He preached on what he called a "catholic spirit," where unity in fundamentals was crucial, while differences in less essential matters could be accepted. And he said, “If your heart is as my heart, then give me your hand.”

Friends, the vision is clear. The Spirit is moving. Let’s finish what we started. Vote yes—for all the regionalization amendments—and let’s be the kind of witness in the world Jesus prayed for in John 17.

Thursday, February 6, 2025

The Church Being the Church

Here is a letter from the United Methodist Council of Bishops to President Trump regarding foreign aid. We are the church bring the church.

Read the letter HERE.




Tuesday, December 17, 2024

The GMC Incites Deaths in Nigeria

Really? I guess this constitutes the first set of “GMC incited” deaths. Three United Methodists were killed in Nigeria as a result of GMC violence.

“We further urge GMC members, at all levels, to put an immediate end to the violence and refrain from disseminating misinformation that fuels fear and disdain that can lead to violence. Likewise, we call our United Methodist members to be guided by integrity and respectful while working towards maintaining peace.”

“The Global Methodist Church leaders are concerned about their future as The United Methodist Church in Nigeria continues to make steady progress. He noted that the majority of United Methodist laity and clergy stayed with the denomination.”

To read about it, see this ARTICLE.

I have always, I remain, and I will always STAY UMC.

Wednesday, November 6, 2024

Thoughts on the Day after the Election

Some of us grieving today and others are quietly celebrating. We’ve had a presidential election. We are a diverse nation and even a diverse Church, and there must be a variety of feelings out there today. We acknowledge them.

Yet in God's church, we proclaim today that we are one in the Spirit and one in the Lord.

Our bishop, Bishop Holston, wrote a powerful letter, day after. I encourage you to read it as we move forward with grace and love for one another.

You can find the complete text HERE.

Here are some portions I'd like to share.

He begins with a quote from 1 Peter 3 in The Message paraphrase: “Be agreeable, be sympathetic, be loving, be compassionate, be humble. That goes for all of you, no exceptions. No retaliation. No sharp-tongued sarcasm. Instead, bless - that’s your job, to bless.”

Bishop Holston then began, “After so many months of disharmony, dissonance and discord – thanks to the non-stop campaigning, constant political advertisements, and flurry of divisive social media posts leading up to election day 2024 – this Biblical instruction may sound like a tall order. And it is.

“We know accepting the grace and love that God offers so freely is simple. Actually living as followers of Christ in a world that often seems like it’s going in the other direction – that takes hard work and persistence.

“Election day has passed. We’ve all prayed and we’ve had the opportunity to vote, not just as an obligation but as an opportunity to witness to our faith. Now it is time to continue our witness and move forward together with love as our biblical foundation – setting aside our differences and looking honestly and forthrightly for ways to work together for the betterment of our communities, our state, our nation and all of God’s creation.”

He suggests our next faithful steps …
    1) remain grounded and steadfast in our faith
    2) remain vigilant in responding to needs around us
    3) encourage building up, not tearing down
    4) be “agreeable” – not necessarily of one mind, but having empathy with those don’t agree with

He then closes with this:

"Please join me in prayer for the women and men who will lead … our state and our nation forward. Continue to pray for the healing of our fractured nation and that we will engage one another with honor and respect, always living with a purpose bigger than ourselves. Pray that we center our lives on faithful action more than words. And pray that we remain committed to serving as Christ served – by loving all. May we always balance our prayers and support for our elected leaders with our obligation to work for social, economic and restorative justice for all of God’s children.”

Thank you, Bishop Holston!

Tuesday, August 27, 2024

My Twelve Convictions as the UMC Moves Forward


As I pray and continue to find healing and perspective after last year's season of church disaffiliations from the main body of the UMC, on a recent retreat I wrote down these twelve convictions. What would yours be?

My Twelve Convictions

1. Ministry is messy because relationships are messy. It’s by grace that we are saved! I love church because it’s the gift God gave us to bring people to Christ. So I embrace the messiness with joy. I choose the Jesus way and work things out in love.

2. As I said in my book, “the arc of Christian history bends toward inclusion.” Christianity, since the early church, has reformed itself over and over to come back to this gospel value. Here we are again. Reform is painful but it’s necessary to meet the times.

3. My personal views were changed by decades of ministry with LGBTQ+ Christians, in and beyond my local church. The idea that you can’t be gay and be Christian is bogus. I know too many that are. Their witness formed me over time. I have experienced the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 in slow motion.

4. I don’t worship Wesley. But I find the Wesleyan way an unparalleled, balanced, and passionate expression of biblical Christianity. Wesley’s sermon “The Scripture Way of Salvation” and our core doctrines in the Discipline spell it out. I just love being a mainline United Methodist. I believe the holiness tradition the separatists claim is a derivative of Wesleyan spirituality. I don’t believe we can arrive at a sinless life. I choose to be overwhelmed by grace!

5. It’s clear from Wesley’s writings, especially “On Schism” and “The Catholic Spirit,” that he would be mortified by how the separatist leadership has functioned over the last ten years. The secessionists caused the schism, not the people they demonized.

6. The initial concerns were valid … how do we move forward in light of dramatic changes in our culture? But the WCA formed in 2016 to openly plan schism. They overturned the One Church Plan presented by the Commission on a Way Forward in 2019, though they knew they would probably leave anyway. They also knew full and well that the Traditional Plan was not sustainable, so I have concluded that it was never intended for unity. It was to say “either they’re leaving, or we’re leaving.” I saw this from the beginning and protested. It turns out they followed through with their end game.

7. The separatists did not leave the UMC for theological or biblical reasons. They left for sociological reasons, rooted in American culture wars and ideological politics. They simply made justification for it using the Bible and theology. This exposed the underbelly of American religious history, as such movements have done in the past. I love our religious freedom because it leads more people to Christ, but this experience has shown me this is the biggest pitfall.

8. Diversity, not division, is a sign of the Holy Spirit. Unity has never been the same thing as uniformity. Wesley coined the phrase “agree to disagree” because he strove for perfection in love. Love is what matters. Love wins.

9. The gospels never even mention the hot button topics that separatists left over. But the gospels definitely teach about unity. Jesus prays for it for a whole chapter in John, noting that our unity comes from abiding in him (not agreeing on everything).

10. Yet here we are, and those who left us are our siblings in Christ who we must now love, just as we love people of other denominations. This will involve forgiveness and healing. I am on a journey of opening my heart.

11. The communion table is the gift Christ gave us to bring unity in our diversity. It’s not just about me and Jesus. It’s about the kingdom of God. We need to come back to the table in order to move forward. This message is the gift I brought to the larger discussion, for such a time as this.

12. The UMC can now robustly stand for the positive biblical value of unity in diversity, over against the divisiveness of our culture. We are unhindered by the divisions of the past and can truly embrace the vision of open minds, open hearts, and open doors. We can grow by bringing all kinds of people into vibrant relationship with Christ and a life of being immersed in grace. I’m excited about our future.

Monday, July 15, 2024

Uganda Mission Trip



Celebrate with us on the return of a wonderful Uganda mission trip. 18 of us (9 from our church, 5 relatives, and 4 joining us through Africa Children’s Mission, or ACM) enjoyed an amazing journey, led by teams leaders Bruce and Evonne Cunningham. We were registered with UMVIM (United Methodist Volunteers in Mission) and hosted by the ecumenical organization of ACM.

We had many projects, all while the people of Uganda shared Christian faith so openly and passionately with us. We opened the dental clinic we sponsor for several days, visited dozens of children on behalf of their sponsors in our church at home, “mudded” a new outdoor kitchen for an elderly lady, built a well for a village that had not had fresh water for 8 months, and led “Activity Day” (think Vacation Bible School) at a local school. We visited other ministries connected to ACM, the Proverbs 31 Women and the Cornerstone Leadership Academy. I taught pastor’s school for two days with 50 African pastors (half of whom were women clergy), and we worshipped and had “dinner on the grounds” at a church where I was invited to preach. We also made various little visits to local schools near the ranch.



After the ministry work, we enjoyed a day and a half on safari before heading home. We saw the most powerful waterfall near the very beginning of the Nile River, the body of water around which the park was designed.  

We are so blessed to have had this experience. If you’ve never been in a mission trip, I encourage you to go on one. It changes your life.




Wednesday, June 12, 2024

Making My Book Available for Discount




To celebrate a historic General Conference and uplifting Annual Conference, I’ve made my book available for a discount. Amazon and Wipf & Stock have it for $21. I’ll send you a copy for only $15 (with free shipping).


Just EMAIL ME or PRIVATE MESSAGE ME on Facebook with your address! I’ll send it with an invoice and you can pay me later.


If you really want to know why I was active in creating the “Stay UMC” movement, this book is about why.


Adam Ployd, professor and theologian at Wesley House in Cambridge, said, “This book is not so much a work of pure scholarship—though the author has clearly done his homework on the topic of Wesley and communion—as it is an exhortative reflection on the ways in which a robust Wesleyan vision of communion should shape the future of United Methodism. West sees a central problem at the heart of the crisis facing The United Methodist Church: it is being divided by political culture wars that threaten the integrity of the Body of Christ and the radical community it is called to be. The sacrament of Holy Communion, he believes, holds the theological and practical key to renewing the Body and cultivating community in a way that can allow the church to move forward in pious, charitable unity …


“Although West is writing for a popular audience— educated laity and clergy alike—this is an erudite book. West incorporates historical voices, from the earliest generations of Christians to the English Nonjurors and, of course, the Wesleys themselves, in order to educate his reader in some fairly nuanced theological ideas. He does so nimbly, demonstrating both his knowledge of the subject matter and his ability to communicate that knowledge with unusual clarity. Indeed, this is a book to be recommended to all United Methodists struggling with the current crisis who desire a rich, reliable theological resource for thinking about things in a way that transcends the surface-level issues.”


See the link Something Happens Here for more information.

Tuesday, June 11, 2024

The Word of God



I believe this wholeheartedly. The Bible calls Jesus Christ the Word of God. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

There is a custom of referring to the Bible as the Word, but that’s not because it is the “words of God,” chiseled in stone and handed to us. It’s because scripture reveals to us the true Word, which is Christ. We don’t read it “flat” as if it’s all the same. No, it all points to Christ and we interpret it through Christ, the “exact imprint of God’s very being.”

I have been deeply disappointed in how the Bible has been cherry-picked with little context for justification of political opinions and separatism. God gave it to us as a “means of grace.”

Thank you, C.S. Lewis, for reminding me this is not new. May we come back to Christ through our adventures in the Bible. May the Holy Spirit lead us in our theological task of interpreting it through tradition, reason, and experience.

Thursday, June 6, 2024

Why Nigerian United Methodists are Staying UMC

Here’s a statement from the Nigerian United Methodist Church on why they are STAYING UMC!


“Our church has obeyed the prayer of Jesus in John 17:6-19 to be one. We have chosen love over hatred, peace over rancor, and unity over division.”


See the full statement outlining their support for regionalization and moving forward in unity here:


https://peopleneedjesus.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/umc-nigeria-press-statement-may-2024.pdf?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2JqjB5PXw_g3YC9KVohGJWNK-gY2AsWHMMkUmzGpH67O9y7LhpX2IX0-o_aem_AarHL1TKDqzrcFPXLvPQSLazTqPHEQQ1WSxPkKAiDTwJ36mCVVoewO8TwlKn_7RO5n-VvEweJZuVyqa4Xg6F_G79



Sunday, May 26, 2024

Wesley wasn’t “converted” at Aldersgate

I have an Episcopalian friend who remarked that it bothered him that people call the Aldersgate experience Wesley’s “conversion”. He’s absolutely right. This is what I wrote in the comments and I want to share it here.

I always balk and correct people when they call the Aldersgate experience Wesley’s “conversion.” You are absolutely on target, that’s reading Wesley through revivalist eyes. That’s saying he wasn’t really a Christian before then, like he wasn’t really “saved.” 

He was in fact quite faithful, studied, and an Anglican missionary in Georgia.

He did not claim that he got “saved” at Aldersgate. His entire theology of the lifelong journey of experiencing prevenient, justifying, and sanctifying grace is in fact what Wesley called “the scripture way of salvation.”

It is far more accurate to say this was a very powerful experience of assurance. “An assurance was given me,” he said, a new peace that he did not have to work so hard. Christian life is about grace. I suppose for some revivalists, this assurance is their definition of “getting saved.” But it wasn’t Wesley’s.

It is important, though, and I would press you back (while completely agreeing about the ridiculous idea that this was his “conversion”) that this experience placed a fire in his belly that became the Methodist movement. It was indeed a turnaround from a perceived sense of failure. He was run off from Georgia, yes, by the family of Sophie Hopky and related legal troubles. But not because he was a general failure as a Christian.

But more fundamentally, it was a vivid personal experience of the “heart religion” he already admired and had seen in the Moravians, and which his brother Charles had experienced the year before.

To use his words, Aldersgate was not an experience of justifying grace (conversion). It was his most vivid experience of sanctifying grace. And that turned his inner light on, with the rest of his life committed to help other people grow in holiness.

Thursday, May 23, 2024

The “Tax Collector Complex”



I have decided to call it the “tax collector complex.”

In Jesus’s time, the tax collector was like the “king of sinners,” the worst of the worst of the worst. Jews found them repulsive. They are even treated as their own special category (Jesus was asked “why do your followers eat with tax collectors and sinners?”).

Because of what it says in the Bible? No. Did some of them steal off the top? Of course, the Bible says they did. Did all of them? That’s highly unlikely.

They were repulsive to Pharisees but that’s absolutely and unequivocally about culture wars (the tax collectors collaborated with the Romans). That’s why Jesus told the story of the Pharisee who prayed “thank you that I’m not like that tax collector over there” … because that’s how repulsed they were.

Even if you believe homosexuality is a sin (which I do NOT, I believe homosexuality is an orientation you are born with, it is actions that can be sinful or not), why are people so hyper focused on it? The tax collector complex. That’s the only reasonable explanation.

Here’s a simple example. We offer plenty of grace regarding divorce and remarriage (which Jesus clearly called adultery, which by the way is in the 10 commandments), but there are folks who offer NO grace at all about being queer (which Jesus never mentions at all, EVER, and it’s NOT in the 10 commandments). I am not saying we should condemn divorce, not at all. I’m saying offering grace about divorce and remarriage, but not about being queer, can simply NOT be justified biblically. It’s culture wars, plain and simple.

I debated with Nigerian pastors over their views condemning the actions of General Conference. I kept asking, if they believed homosexuality is a sin and they also believe polygamy is a sin, then why were they so offended that we simply neutralized language in the Discipline about homosexuality, but they never, EVER insist on filling the Discipline with harmful language about polygamy?

They never could answer my question. Of course they can’t … because the only justification for the difference in attitude is the “tax collector complex.” I told them they were comfortable dealing with their own social issues regionally, but they were refusing to allow us to do the same.

Tuesday, May 7, 2024

General Conference Reflections



I sat in as an alternate delegate and voted all morning on the last day on General Conference! It was a joy to participate more actively.

That afternoon, I was driving home from General Conference and reflecting. Just when I thought I might pull over because of a rainstorm to post a few pictures of my last day, I realized I was in Banks County, GA. This reminded me how much I’m UNITED Methodist, with every fiber of my being.

Why? My ancestors started a Methodist society RIGHT HERE in Banks County, GA where they are buried at Mt. Pleasant UMC. Their son (my Dad’s 3rd great grandfather) was ordained by Francis Asbury in 1800. Rev. Levi Garrison was a circuit rider for 7 years until he “located” and pastored local churches in nearby Anderson, SC.

And now here I am in Banks County, posting as the storm clears about how proud I am that the UMC has made it through the storm!

I’ve just left a historic General Conference, where it felt like Annual Conference felt last year. Yes of course there were healthy and normal debates, but all the rancor was gone. There was a sense of companionship, unity, healing, and connectedness.

Here are five huge takeaways for the UMC as we move forward: 

1) “Regionalization” legislation passed with flying colors and will be sent to annual conferences for ratification (it’s a constitutional change). This will give United Methodists in different parts of the world (Africa, the Phillipines, Europe, and the U. S.) a great deal of autonomy in sorting out the social issues of their region, all under one General Discipline with the core beliefs that bind us together. 

2) A fresh new set of social principles were passed which replace the archaic ones that have been amended and strung together countless times. Having a robust set of non-binding social principles (they aren’t church law) has been our tradition for over 100 years, since the church tackled issues such as temperance and child labor and made a big difference. One delegate, who happens to be a Supreme Court Justice in Zimbabwe, practiced true spiritual conferencing to find language to define marriage in a way that Africans, Americans, and everyone else in the room could support in unity. The idea that Africans and the US would never find a way to agree and move forward was a WCA/Good News/IRD “separatist narrative” that we just proved to be untrue. When you were committed to unity, you find a way.

3) The controversial and harmful language in the Discipline about human sexuality has been removed, including the punitive language and schismatic disaffiliation legislation inserted in 2019. We don’t have to agree to be together in unity. So we speak of what we agree on across the diverse world and give each other contextual space to go about the business of the gospel!

4) The denomination practiced good financial stewardship after Covid and the season of disafiliations and reduced budget dramatically. Included in this plan is that no new bishops will be elected this year … anywhere in the five US Jurisdictions … and a number will retire. There will be reassignments and transfers and conferences will creatively share bishops. At the same time, we will add 2 new bishops in Africa (we were originally planning on 5). Our denomination is perfectly sustainable moving forward!

5) As per the original "one church plan" that almost passed in 2019, the punitive bans were lifted, but there were also positive built-in protections for churches and pastors to be as traditional as they want to be. It’s sort of a “federated approach.” It’s always been the best way forward. We are a people of open minds, open hearts, and open doors!

So I am happy to “be UMC” in a new season! Thanks be to God.

Accurate information can be found in our bishop’s letter to the North Alabama Conference. You can find it here:

https://www.umcna.org/postdetail/18354109

More accurate information will be coming out from our annual conference soon. Look for that and talk to your pastor! Naturally, you can’t trust everything you’ll read ot hear, especially when it originates from sources with a separatist or proselytizing agenda.




Monday, January 22, 2024

Why Grandpa Hamby loved the Church



Here’s an inspiring word from the preaching Bible that belonged to my Grandpa C. P. Hamby. This is probably the very Bible he laid on the pulpit with two pistols nearby to ward off the bootleggers who were trying to shut down the Church in the 1920’s.

I wonder if this is the very sermon he was preaching. The sermon is entitled “Why I Love the Church.” Grandpa wrote:

“With all its admitted frailties and human weaknesses, we dare to join with David. Why did David so love the house of God? …

“We love the Church because of what it cost.  The Church is a costly institution. Its history is a story of divine and human sacrifice. Divine. Human.

“Last of all, we love the Church because of its future. We are not manning a sinking ship. We are not fighting a losing battle.”

#StayUMC
#BeUMC




Saturday, January 6, 2024

“This Gospel” of Radical Inclusion




Happy day of Epiphany!

Here’s a snapshot of Sandy when we were enjoying the Christmas lights at Calloway Gardens.

May the light shine and unfold for you the mystery of the ages, hidden in Christ and now revealed. Paul describes “this gospel” as one of radical inclusion (not just personal salvation) in Ephesians 3:5-10:

“In former generations this mystery was not made known to humankind, as it has now been revealed to his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit: that is, the Gentiles have become fellow-heirs, members of the same body, and sharers in the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel. Of this gospel I have become a servant according to the gift of God’s grace that was given to me by the working of his power. Although I am the very least of all the saints, this grace was given to me to bring to the Gentiles the news of the boundless riches of Christ, and to make everyone see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; so that through the church the wisdom of God in its rich variety might now be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly places.”

Wednesday, December 20, 2023

My Thoughts on the Regionalization Plan

I was on an online forum where someone asked if the plans for regionalization “only affects Africa.” I thought I should share my response here.

“No, regionalization would affect everything. Right now, there is some level of Contextualization allowed for central conferences outside the US, but NONE is allowed within the US. Regionalization would allow all areas of the world to have Contextualization over agreed-upon general areas. This would be a peaceful and unifying resolution to our current crisis, because the African church, for example, would not be pulled into voting on matters that only affect the US. It makes sense. Then the US delegates could find a way forward with something like the ‘one church plan.’

“Frankly, in my opinion the WCA has used manipulation tactics to use African delegates for their votes in a way that resembles colonialism, and it’s now become evident by the WCA’s own schismatic actions. They never intended the ‘traditional plan’ passed in 2019 for unity. It is now evident that their agenda was to force their opponents to leave, and if they could not do so, then to rise up and leave themselves. We know it’s true because that’s exactly what they did. The ‘traditional plan’ that the WCA pushed was not devised for unity but for schism.

“My sense from the African church is that they by and large voted for the traditional plan with the understanding that it would bring unity, not division. The truth has now made itself evident. Many African pastors I know of are in favor of regionalization, so they will no longer be pulled into conflicts that do not concern them.

“I mean no offense, but that’s the way I see it.”

For official information on the regionalization plan, click here.

Thursday, July 27, 2023

On the phrase “Love the sinner, hate the sin”


I have grown to detest this phrase.

It carries the pretense of being loving, with the undergirding reality that we assume we are “holier than thou.” I imagine it sounds so different to the one being judged than the one doing the judging. Yes, it’s judgment … because we are attempting to identify what another person’s sin is.

Not only that, let’s be honest. Folks who use this phrase are almost always talking about one thing. Nobody uses it when we talk about people’s addiction, or lying, or cheating on their taxes.

Here’s the thing. The only things the Lord “hates,” according to scripture, are “haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.” Look it up.

I wonder if people who presume to righteously hate other people’s sin realize that it may be their own sin the Lord truly hates.

Our calling is to love God and neighbor, my friends.

Wednesday, July 5, 2023

Presentation on Staying in the UMC

I have been a spokesperson for staying UMC in this season when some have been discerning whether to secede from our denomination or remain in the main body. Each presentation has been tailored to a local situation.

Now that I have finished the last speaking engagement on my calendar, I feel compelled to share my most recent presentation with you here.



I’m passionate about the future of the UMC and believe we have great days ahead, pulling together and focusing on making disciples of Christ after this schism. I stand firmly against the wealth of misinformation that has been spread by separatists, and this presentation includes some of my  “Methodist mythbusting.”


If all you’ve heard is a separatist presentation, you have not opened yourself to a complete picture. Factual information from your pastor, conference, and bishop isn’t the “other side” but the common ground from which multiple sides should be considered.


I hope this offers a clear, compelling alternative to the separatist point of view. Some highlights are:

  • The distinction between traditional “compatibalists” and “incompatibalists”
  • Essential Wesleyan spirituality
  • Addressing MYTHS such as the ideas that UMC beliefs are going to dramatically change, extreme examples represent the whole,  we are all going to take a “hard left,” and that leaving is a “good business deal.”
  • A vision for being a traditional church in a diverse denomination
  • Choosing unity over conformity and uniformity


Feel free to share it.




Monday, July 3, 2023

Balancing Resources (latest version)


There is plenty of biased and misleading information available on the internet to promote the separatist narrative for leaving the UMC. I offer these balancing resources.

Is the United Methodist Church Really …? – Mythbusting by “Ask the UMC” from United Methodist Communications (parts 1-11 so far)


Bishop Bickerton’s “Mid-State of the UMC” Address

Council of Bishop’s Narrative for the Continuing UMC

Celebrate the UMC Event in Montgomery - Featuring Tom Berlin

Sermon by John Robbins of Pulaski Heights UMC on Staying in the UMC

Adam Hamilton Responds to Maligning and Misleading Videos of Rob Renfroe

Bishops Push Back Against Recruitment Tactics of WCA

African Bishops Condemn the WCA and refuse to go into the GMC

What We Believe – The United Methodist Church

United Methodist Social Principles

“Should I Stay or Should I Go” series by United Methodist Communications

Stay UMC - Grassroots coalition of North Alabama United Methodists

“Why I’m Not Leaving the United Methodist Church” -Letter by Steve West that went viral after first Clear Branch event promoting leaving the UMC

“Open Letter to Chris Ritter” - Letter by Steve West that went viral in response to biased sideby-side comparison distributed by the WCA

“We Believe!” - Steve Harper dispels myths about future beliefs

“That We May Be One” – Texas Conference

“Abide” - South Georgia Conference



"Beginning Again" - Guide for Remaining United Methodist 

Friday, June 30, 2023

Letter Responding to my Stay UMC Presentation


This is a letter I was honored to receive after a recent presentation. I share it with you (edited to remove identifying information) because it beautifully and succinctly states, from a layperson’s point of view, why the vast majority of traditional United Methodists feel compelled to stay UMC.


Dr. West, 

I hope this isn't an imposition.  I was in the audience at {my local UMC}on Wednesday night. I wanted to speak to you after, not least to ask how you're enjoying "Strange New Worlds," but you had a number of folks waiting and we knew you had a long drive home ahead of you. 

First, I want to thank you.  It's obvious that this is a subject you're passionate about, and I truly appreciate you giving of your time.   I also have something that I simply can't get my head around.  My brilliant wife and I have talked about the matter extensively. I've spoken with {our pastor} at length, done a lot of reading, and watched what feels like hours of video (including more than one iteration of Rev. Stafford's informational session).  We have a 10-year-old son, and as I helped him with his Reading Fair project on Sherlock Holmes this past school year, we talked about the idea of "Qui bene?" that Holmes comes back to when he's stuck on a problem.  Believe it or not, that's what is really confusing to me about the present situation.  It may be that I'm not sophisticated enough or just not well-versed enough in the complexities of the thing, but I'm having a really hard time understanding how the traditionalists benefit from this.  I understand that they want a church that more closely reflects their social ideology, and that may be the answer, but I don't understand why the UMC has to be shattered to accomplish that.    

Beyond that, I find the GMC's references to Paul and Barnabas as a touchstone somewhat disingenuous.  Those two parted ways over a personal disagreement as far as I can tell, not any theological divide. It also bugs me that the whole premise of Rev. Stafford's presentation appears to be internally inconsistent, first stating that declaring Jesus as Savior is all that is required for salvation, regardless of doctrine or rules (emphasis mine), and then lamenting breaches of the Book of Discipline in nearly the next breath.  His appeal to probability, saying that because there are more and more "liberal" pastors being ordained in the UMC that even if you're a predominantly "traditional" UMC congregation, you're probably going to get a liberal pastor that doesn't align with your views, strikes me as a shabby trick more appropriate to Harold Hill.  Those, however, are my own gripes and not likely to have much of an impact on anyone else.

Sir, I know you're incredibly busy, and I understand completely if you're not able to respond.  Part of writing this was just to sort out what's been banging around in my head on this for a long while.  I'm going to vote to stay, if it comes to a vote at {my church}.  Like you, I'm sure, people I love and respect are on the other side.  If our church disaffiliates, I have no doubt we'll be able to find another church home.  What it comes down to for me, really, is that I can't see myself being part of a church that says to anyone, "You can attend worship here.  You can sit in the pew if you want. But you can't fully be part of this church because of who you are."  It seems to me it's the same as saying, "Jesus does not want you here."

Thank you, sir, again, for your time and your passion and for letting me get all this out.  I'm not sure if any of it makes sense.  If I can be of any help to you, please don't hesitate to ask.

Very Respectfully,

{name}

Tuesday, June 6, 2023

Addressing the Misinformation about our Core Doctrines

I've had several thoughtful and positive comments on my sermon on Trinity Sunday, so I thought I'd share a portion of it here. It's important!

I'm excited about being part of God's church because of who God is and what God is doing in us. No church is perfect. Last time I checked, it's full of people. And no denomination is perfect. All of them are struggling, but the church is the gift that God gave us, a gift of not only witness for God but for the "with-ness" of God.

And as we talk about the Trinity, I think it's important to address some misinformation that you will find out there in the world. Some opponents of the United Methodist Church say that the UMC is going to somehow abandon core doctrines like the authority of the Bible, or the resurrection, or the virgin birth, or the lordship of Christ, or the Trinity. You name it, I've heard it. Nothing could be further from the truth, and I'm going to tell you a couple of reasons why.

First of all, one method of rhetoric is to take outlying examples - something somebody said, somewhere, in a 12.5 million person denomination - and then you exaggerate it, take it out of context, wrap it into a narrative of the infidelity of the whole, and use it as justification for leaving.

It's a method of rhetoric. But it's an untruth, because second, our core doctrines of the United Methodist Church can not be changed. They're part of something called the Articles of Religion. They are in a constitutional section of our Discipline and were written by Wesley's very own hand, as he adapted them from the Church of England. It would take a 3/4 vote of all lay and clergy members of all annual conferences everywhere, throughout the entire world, to change those core constitutional doctrines.

And the very first one reads like this:

Article I — Of Faith in the Holy Trinity There is but one living and true God, everlasting, without body or parts, of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the maker and preserver of all things, both visible and invisible. And in unity of this Godhead there are three persons, of one substance, power, and eternity—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.

You can not be more clear, and that's "A Number One."